Non-Ordinary Conversations

Holotropic Journeys Podcast

Some experiences change the shape of a life. This is where we talk about them.

The Holotropic Journeys podcast is a gathering place for the holotropic community. Facilitated by Wilde Lawson-King, each non-ordinary conversation journeys with a fellow psychonaut whose life has been expanded and remade by holotropic states and the work of Stan Grof.

The conversations explore the vast territory of this work, through art, spirituality, archetypes, healing, integration and community, where it came from and where it is going. Beneath them all runs one question: what does it mean to move towards wholeness?

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Episodes

Episode cover: Brigitte Grof

Nov 1, 2025 - 57 minutes

Brigitte Grof

Brigitte shares her extensive experience with holotropic breathwork, discussing her journey from psychology to art and her first time meeting Stan. She emphasizes the importance of community in the practice, the evolution of training programs, and the significance of Stan's legacy. Brigitte also explores the role of art in expressing inner experiences and offers advice for future facilitators in the field.

Episode cover: John Ablett

Dec 6, 2025 - 51 minutes

John Ablett

John shares several of his mandalas and speaks to the evolving nature of meaning through his art. This conversation highlights the transformative power that artistic expression can play in integration, healing, and self-discovery.

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